What people say about SAGE & THYME
Quotes about how using SAGE & THYME in a conversation is helpful to the worried person and also the listener, and being a SAGE & THYME facilitator
People gives us their views by e-mail, during our research, in evaluations conducted by other organisations, and by completing post-training questionnaires. Here is a sample of them.
Wonderful training that helped an upset patient
"I just wanted to send you a little message to thank you very much for the SAGE & THYME 3 hour session I attended on Tuesday. I found it such a wonderful course and learning curve and I was able to put what I learnt in to practice the following day with a rather upset gentleman. I did actually feel much more equipped to deal with the situation and the gentleman in question appeared to feel much calmer on leaving. I know people don't always want to put themselves forward for role play, but I'm glad I did as it really did help me; and I just wanted to thank you and the team for that opportunity and the skills to deal with such situations."
SAGE & THYME made a difference to patients
"I wanted to let you know how valuable I found the recent training for SAGE & THYME. The very next day I got the opportunity to use this training three times, to listen to patients who were distressed. I was thanked by each one of them following our interaction and was told it really made a difference to them and how they felt afterwards. I have found this so rewarding and really pleased to have made a difference."
Use model within daily practice
"Following the training I had a carers assessment booked for that afternoon so within an hour I was implementing the [SAGE & THYME] model. Although the carer was quite distressed during our consultation the model proved to be an effective way of ascertaining her needs/concerns whilst exploring who supported her, in what way and what she required from me. It is definitely a model that I will use within my daily practice."
Fitness instructors using SAGE & THYME in Prehab4Cancer sessions
"I offer reflective practice groups to the fitness instructors working with the Prehab4Cancer programme. They were trained in S&T over a year ago. I met with them this morning for a reflective session. One instructor presented a case of a young man, in his 30s, going through chemo for a colorectal cancer. The instructor remembered to ask a question about what was going on for him (“A’ and ‘G’) and then be silent and listen. He reflected that this is something he remembered from the training that has stuck with him ever since and changed how he works with people who are struggling. He reflected that by doing so, he was really able to help this man who disclosed he was frightened and worried (emotional concerns). A great plan was devised to offer him some additional support (instructor ringing him twice a week and contacting his Clinical Nurse Specialist – the ‘Y’ and the ‘M”)."
Used skills taught with carers
“I have used the listening guide techniques in my role with carers and the responding guide to address those concerns raised. It has helped me to help the carers feel more in control. I have used it with patients too.”
Impact on patient
“A patient re-called to the assessment clinic following screening was very distressed. She was extremely anxious of what to expect. Her mother died of breast cancer and she thought she was going to be told she had cancer. S&T structure enabled the patient to talk through her anxieties; she became calmer as a result and was able to take some control of her situation.”
Conversation helped patient
"[The] SAGE & THYME model made me listen to the patient's concerns and address their real issues, not what I presumed. Reassurance given at each visit to his concern, which was 'how will I be at the end, will I be asleep?' This man has leukaemia, white cells low so infection will be his cause of death eventually. All treatment stopped. [Using the SAGE & THYME model] made him address his idea of support - now has realised his best friend will ensure his wife will be cared for and will help her sort financial things out after he dies. He feels 'prepared for dying'."
Helped with student mentoring
“As a listener, one of my students came in to see me as an attendance issue. As I listened, I gently remarked that she looked stressed, tired and tearful. I reflected her words back to her and she opened up to me about the real reasons for her absence. She disclosed freely as much as she felt comfortable to do so and we explored them together.”
Impact on patient
“Patient (was) becoming upset (and) I ask them why they were upset and if there is anything I could do to help. I gave them time to speak it was only a small thing they had not had a bowel movement for days and was getting stomach ache. The patient was embarrassed about this I asked was there anything else but they were really concerned and thought that it might be something else i.e. cancer. I listened to the patient and asked if it would be alright to speak to the nurse. Senacot [was] given to help them go.”
Helped patient
“I counseled a patient who was depressed and very upset at being in hospital. She had fallen at home and fractured her hip. She was worried about being in hospital for a long period. I listened to her concerns using the SAGE & THYME model. We jointly made a plan about her future goals and management. She seemed much more happy and communicative post our talk and this attitude has been maintained ever since.”
Helped patient think clearly
"Patient told me that she had walked out of a fog following our brief consultation [using the SAGE & THYME model]. She worked out for herself what it was she needed to do to solve her problems. The model really fit well in a really limited time scale."
Successful Use of the Model
"For those delegates who were sceptical that this framework would work for them and would take up too much time we have challenged them to just 'try it' and let us know how it goes. Interestingly we have had some lovely stories from those sceptics who have found success in using the mnemonic SAGE & THYME and on one occasion received a box of chocolates from a patient. "
Change in practice
“By allowing the person to talk to me is the biggest change of my practice and looking into seeing how other people can support both myself and the patient."
Huge impact
"It has had a huge impact on lots of different groups of staff and volunteers."
SAGE & THYME model is excellent!
"I just wanted to pass on my thoughts regarding the model. Firstly, the SAGE & THYME model is, in my opinion, excellent. It has turned my practice upside down when having discussions with my patients and relatives. I like how it has shown me not to rush in with lots of advice and info, but to wait and allow the person I'm talking with to guide what help they need. I also like how it gets to the root of the problem - I now know that the first few things mentioned may not be the worst of their worries at all. It is a model I have now adopted and will continue to use daily."
Increased confidence
“Since doing the course I have been more confident in gathering information from a patient when in distress to find out what is really bothering them. It is not always the first issue they may express.”
Enables effective communication with patients, carers and colleagues
“It has enabled me to communicate more effectively with patients, carers and colleagues alike without having to think that I need to think that I need to jump in at the deep end and try and fix everything.”
Listening skills
“Excellent way of learning how to communicate more effectively with patients or relatives, as with all communication skills, this course demonstrated an effective approach to using your listening skills, and relating back, that shows the patient or relative that they are being listened to and understand but in an empathic way. I have had need to use these skills taught that day recently and has been most effective and beneficial to all concerned.”
Used skills taught with carers
“I have used the listening guide techniques in my role with carers and the responding guide to address those concerns raised. It has helped me to help the carers feel more in control. I have used it with patients too.”
Used S&T approach in office and at home
“It is a good communication tool that I have been using in the office and at home too as well as out in the community in people's homes.”
Improved staff confidence and happiness
“Feel more confident to discuss a patient’s concerns. I have felt happier with the outcome of discussions I have had.”
Helped with conversation on a busy ward
“Busy ward, busy workload, patient displaying emotions and concerns pre-op (due for surgery today). Use model to delay further discussion to appropriate time. Again use model to discuss concerns after busy time passed to structure conversation.”
Helped member of staff with difficult conversations
“I felt I had fulfilled my role much more than previous. I often avoided conversations around prognosis and death as I found it difficult to conduct a conversation. Now I feel satisfied. I am confident to lead a structured interview.”
Colleagues would benefit from attending workshop
“All my colleagues would benefit from the knowledge gained and this would improve our understanding of patients’ needs.”
Wish I'd had it at the start of my career!
"I have used SAGE & THYME in lots of conversations, personal and professional. I believe that it has been the most influential training I have been on and I plan to continue to use. I have also now delivered the training to Nurses and Allied Health Professionals and the feedback was very similar to my own experience of the training. Wish I'd had it at the start of my career!"
Learnt something new after 38 years
“I have worked in health or social care setting for 38 years and I learnt something from the course, so you are never too old or too experienced to learn new ways of communicating, listening and responding to the needs of patients, carers and work colleagues.”
Helpful for giving emotional support
"The training is very helpful particularly for those of us involved in providing spiritual guidance and emotional support."
Being a S&T facilitator
"Training SAGE & THYME is one of the most rewarding experiences of my professional life. It creates real 'light bulb' moments of participants as they start to appreciate patient empowerment and the fact that they are not expected or required to have all the answers."
Being a facilitator
"I have been a SAGE & THYME facilitator for a year. The training was comprehensive and I felt safe and encouraged while practicing the skills set. I have found the course both demanding and rewarding to deliver. Working with a good team is essential, both for support and to ensure a robust teaching environment. The course has evaluated extremely well, and is a communication model that transfers well into practice, both in the health and social care environment. I would highly recommend the experience."
Being a S&T facilitator
"I love facilitating SAGE & THYME foundation level workshops because healthcare professionals who attend really respond and accept the model, and report that it offers something practical and useful for day-to-day clinical practice."
Feedback is always positive
"I have been facilitating SAGE & THYME for approximately 10 years and still get a thrill from the learners positive learning experience- the feedback is always positive, especially how it will impact and build upon their practice. As a facilitator it is really important to me that the resources are up to date and evidence based, which I confidently believe the national team [at MFT] provide."
SATFAC delegate feedback
“Thank you for a wonderful three days of training. Exhausting but so very exhilarating.”
Listening skills
"Excellent way of learning how to communicate more effectively with patients or relatives, as with all communication skills, this course demonstrated an effective approach to using your listening skills, and relating back, that shows the patient or relative that they are being listened to and understand but in an empathic way. I have had need to use these skills taught that day recently and has been most effective and beneficial to all concerned."
Better than a 3 month communication module
“Excellent feedback from the individuals – expressed that they learnt more in this session than they had on a 3 month communication module!”
First aid for upset people
"To use an analogy, teaching SAGE & THYME is like teaching first aid for people who are upset."
Using SAGE & THYME
"Introducing SAGE & THYME into our organisation has been an extremely valuable process."
Researchers communicating with distressed patients
“We had had numerous requests to provide training on informed consent and communicating with distressed patients. The requests came from all different types of clinical research staff and this course met the needs for all of them. I have confidence in recommending it to other research networks.”
Appropriate for mental health
“This course is short, well structured, user friendly and appropriate to mental health as well as other nursing/caring disciplines. We spend a lot of our time asking questions, formulating our responses etc. and this is a good communication tool that I have already put in to practice.”
Effective teaching
"Communication skills DO matter and this course emphasises how vital the focus on emotions can improve patient care. A great mix of lecture based and group work to consolidate learning, with use of rehearsals in a supportive and safe environment. The SAGE & THYME mnemonic can aid in giving a structure to what can be an intense and difficult discussion to address someone's concerns."